Vasily Dzhugan: Ruthenians do not give up!
(en) ASR I One of the leaders of the Ruthenian movement, the chairman of the World Council of Subcarpathian Ruthenians Vasily Mikhailovich Dzhugan spoke about the challenges the Ruthenians face.
- Vasily Mikhailovich, how recent decisions of international Ruthenian forums aimed at implementing the results of the Transcarpathian Regional referendum of December 1, 1991, will affect final solution of the Ruthenian question?
- Ruthenian people face the objective - ultimately transfer implementation of the results of the Transcarpathian Regional referendum of the 1 December 1991 in a public and legal sphere.
In the present situation "Ukrainian government," supposedly "on behalf of the people," arrogated to itself the right to punish those who demand implementation of the results of the Transcarpathian Regional referendum of 1 December 1991, although the people did not empower "Ukrainian Powers" to do so. On the contrary, almost every year, at least two or three times
, Ruthenians demanded that the Ukrainian authorities implemented the results of the Transcarpathian Regional referendum on December 1, 1991.That is, Ukrainian regime brutally and cynically abused its authority and acted contrary to the will of the people. After all, government is there to serve people, and not vice versa.
Previously, when Ruthenians raised "Ruthenian question" as it was on the second ECSR (European Congress of Subcarpathian Ruthenians), according to authorities, they - Ruthenians - acted illegally, in violation of the laws of Ukraine, as in the understanding of the regime such a formulation was a crime.
One of the clearest examples of this is the Ukrainian political inquisition against Father Dimytry Sydor. To date, after more than 20 sessions, the slow "process" have been rolling for more than two years, but neither the regime nor the initiators of an ostentatious tribunal could not prove his guilt, and already quite in despair, resorted to a last resort - "linguistic expertise ".
Ruthenians - law-abiding people - then, in 1991, and now, do not violate or interfere with any laws, they only pursue their legitimate rights by peaceful means. Transcarpathian Regional referendum of 1 December 1991 was conducted in full accordance with the laws of the time.
Everyone, including the "Ukrainian Powers" should clearly understand this, as well as the fact that the results of the Transcarpathian Regional referendum of December 1, 1991 must be appropriately dealt with legally. Ruthenian people have already defined the solution of the "Ruthenian question". The problem was long debated and discussed, the goals were clearly defined; all that remains is to take real steps to address it, - of course, considering "Ukrainian specifics" in the approach to this issue.
- But the Ruthenians are still accused of separatism, aren‘t they?
- Bogey of separatism is the main line of defence of essentially illegitimate in our region Ukrainian authorities. Here, throughout the time of existence of the independent Ukraine, was implanted Rutheno-phobia and Ukrainian mythology of interpretation of the "Ruthenian question": that is the Ruthenians are losers, the marginalized, and they are basically “people from under the bridge”. They implied that there are only 36 of Ruthenians of both sexes, or only some 10 000, and then - only pensioners and other "greased" nonsense…
- Do you think that you were able to expose anti-Ruthenian Ukrainian myths?
- For over 20 years of existence of the Ruthenian movement, we have learned that the main condition for successful problem solving is to break information blockade. The regime is afraid of transparency and, above all, when it comes to its nefarious deeds.
When we proclaimed about legal registration of the results of Transcarpathian Regional referendum of 1 December 1991, we initiated public discussion of this action, then, according to its outcome, defined the tactical steps, and shown people the benefits of implementation of the decisions of the referendum, which eased tensions both at home and abroad.
- But its legal implementation would come into conflict with the current Ukrainian legislation, would it not?
- It is not superfluous to recall that the Constitution of Ukraine was adopted in 1996, while our referendum was held under the laws of 1991 and, therefore, neither constitution, nor law shall be retroactive. The fact that the authors of the Constitution in 1996 did not bother to include in it the results of the referendum of 1991, is the problem of Ukraine rather than Subcarpathian Ruthenia.
If the legalization of the results of the Transcarpathian Regional referendum of
December 1, 1991, "does not meet the criteria" of Ukrainian legislation, one should change the laws of Ukraine, not the expression of the will of the people that is above any Constitution. Ruthenian people are law-abiding, but the Ukrainian law in the territory of the Ruthenians to the South of the Carpathians mean nothing, until the results of the Transcarpathian Regional referendum of December 1, 1991 are implemented, and finally officially recognised. This is in the interests of Ukraine as well if it wants to position itself as a democracy.
- In other words, do you fully transfer the solution of the Ruthenian question into a public domain?
- Resolutions, adopted by the Ruthenian Congresses, have not violated the Ukrainian law, as public referendum is above the Constitution of Ukraine. Moreover, the implementation of the Ruthenian question has been fully transferred into legitimate public discourse in order to prevent any attempts of persecution by the Ukrainian authorities.
After the second ECSR, the solution of the Ruthenian issue became a subject of public discussion, and now to hinder its realization would be a criminal offence against the Ruthenians.
In addition, the lawsuit is being prepared to solve the Ruthenian issue in the courts of law. By the way, Crimea judicially regained their Constitution of 1992. Let Ukraine and the Ukrainian authorities, after 20 years of neglect and persecution, try to accuse the Ruthenians of "separatism" for the fact that the Ruthenians openly, on their own, legally implement the results of the Transcarpathian Regional referendum, and the international community will assess the actions of Ukraine.
- Do the Ruthenians have the power to solve such a serious international issue?
- If in 2007, or even in 2009, someone hinted at the qualitative and quantitative leap
in the Ruthenian movement that took place in 2011, no one would have believed it. This is simply the triumph in the light of all that the Ukrainian state has done to us.
However, the support that the Ruthenian movement received in recent times, can assure not only implementation of the planned for the near future legal registration of the results of the Transcarpathian Regional referendum, but also the prospects of tomorrow, and beyond ...
By now, the Ruthenians have the resources and organization, and thus they can control all processes independently. Ruthenians have powerful organizational and informational pool. Organizing structures, mostly network, are the centres of institutional power and all that happens in the territory of the Ruthenians to the South of the Carpathians.
Ruthenian movement can now outline a strategy, distribute the work that needs to be done, and inquire about its performance.
- What are your wishes to the Ruthenians and all the people of Russian World?
- Do not be discouraged, do not be afraid to be different, look for others, educate them, and you will be rewarded.
Interviewed Oles Tverdokhleb
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